Big ideas for solving the cyber skills gap, hacking AI and furries at DEF CON
Safe Mode Podcast
It’s been called the cybersecurity poverty line. Many organizations just don’t have the money to afford a skilled cybersecurity team to protect themselves from hackers. But there’s a movement afoot to change that dynamic through cybersecurity clinics that can support organizations in need. The Center for Long-Term Cybersecurity at the University of California, Berkeley, is at the forefront of developing cyber clinics and its executive director, Ann Cleveland, talks about the center’s approach with Safe Mode host Mike Farrell. CyberScoop senior editor Elias Groll also joins the show to discuss his recent trip to DEF CON where he witnessed hackers competing to outsmart AI models as well as a parade of furries.
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(02:17) The weirdest things Elias saw at DEF CON
(04:18) “Spot the Fed” at DEF CON
(06:15) Hacking in the AI Village
(08:45) Adversarial testing and improving AI technology
(13:23) Creating a diverse pool of hackers to test AI models
(14:34) Congress’s interest in addressing AI
(16:37) Start of interview with Ann Cleveland
(17:34) What is the Center for Long-Term Cybersecurity focused on?
(21:55) Anticipated changes from AI
(22:24) How can universities support small businesses?
(32:56) Connections between cybersecurity and climate change
(38:51) Should big tech companies be liable for breaches?
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Links:Fifty minutes to hack ChatGPT: Inside the DEF CON competition to break AI (by Elias Groll)
Feds to hackers in Vegas: Help us, you’re our only hope (by Christian Vasquez)
How a hacking crew overtook a satellite from inside a Las Vegas convention center and won $50,000 (by Christian Vasquez)